They do mention Bugel coming from the Gibbs/Coryell tree, but you are right that they did omit him from the flowchart. The Sid Gillman coaching tree. Ray Perkins — I don't know how accurate it is to put the Bill Parcells and Marty Schottenheimer Coaching Trees in Paul Brown's forest, but Arnsparger and Perkins belong here. Blanton Collier — Most famous for succeeding two of the greatest coaches in history, Paul "Bear" Bryant at the University of Kentucky and Paul Brown in Cleveland. SOURCES: Wikipedia entries on Sid Gillman, Paul Brown, West Coast Offense, and http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2009/04/sid-gillman-father-of-modern-passing.html. Coach Coryell had studied the schemes and philosophies of TCU's Dutch Meyer, who penned Spread Formation Football in 1952, as well as Rams and Chargers coach Sid … Gillman is the only coach in both the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the College Football Hall of Fame. Silliness: Pat Peppler, who was a GM forced into coaching for part of one season, ends up with around 25 connections if you click all the way through, from . Fired or Retired — Former Chiefs HC Gunther Cunningham was Schottenheimer's defensive coordinator in Kansas City. Henning's omission is definitely an oversight. Sid Gillman Coaching Tree. Second-hand Connections — Dick Jauron, Mike McCarthy, Wade Phillips. Originally posted on Dec 17, 2014 at 9:27:31am. Legendary chairman of the five-time Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers, Dan Rooney, tells his life story for the first time. It helped in the proliferation of the WCO as a dominant offense in the league, but remember the rule wasn't changed until 1996. Too many intertwining branches. Among these coaches alone we have six Super Bowl appearances and three Lombardi Trophies. That 1960 Chargers staff featured Sid Gillman as head coach, Al Davis as End Coach, Joe Madro as Offensive Line Coach, Jack Faulkner as Defensive Backfield Coach and Chuck Noll as Defensive Line Coach. Other Notables — Dallas HC Wade Phillips was Schottenheimer's defensive coordinator in San Diego. Green also has secondary connections to Tony Dungy (his defensive coordinator in Minnesota) and, through Billick, to everyone associated with Marvin Lewis. He also has roots with the University of Cincinnati, under head coaches Tim Murphy and Rick Minter. Or just give credit to whoever invented football and call it good. Sid Gillman and Lombardi were both assistants for Blaik in the late 1940s. Owen is credited with inventing the "Umbrella Defense" — a system that became the basis for today's 4-3 defensive set. As for his three main descendants, an additional six rings come from Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin and Sean Payton. Coaches that had NFL success after him were Mike Ditka, Dan Reeves and Raymond Berry. Perkins, who hired Parcells, Bill Belichick, and Romeo Crennel, played for Shula in Baltimore. Howell's defensive coordinator was future Cowboys coach Tom Landry. So, here's to power ranking the best coaching trees in NFL history. Taken straight from Wiki. Way Back When: How Sid Gillman's coaching tree extends from LA to Denver Oct 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM. The younger Kiffin also worked for Jeff Tedford at Cal. Sidney Gillman (October 26, 1911 - January 3, 2003) was an American football player, coach and executive. Press J to jump to the feed. Many will say Bill Walsh, who in the 1980s revolutionized the passing game. Payton also has roots with Jim Fassel and a connection to the mighty Bill Walsh/Mike Holmgren Tree through Ray Rhodes and Jon Gruden in Philadelphia. Coach Walsh once asked a gambler at a table he crowded up to, "Do you know who I am" just before getting punched out. If you're going strictly by coaches that served directly under another coach, it's Paul Brown. Payton was ALSO a coach at SDSU, which was where Gillman got his start. John Earl Madden (born April 10, 1936)1 is a former American professional football player in the National Football League, a former head coach with the Oakland Raiders in the American Football League and later the NFL, and a former color commentator for NFL telecasts. Gillman himself though, had enough success to earn a pro and college football Hall of Fame induction, so it's safe to say he can be put in that greatest of all-time discussion. Since 1996, only 4 teams using a WCO style offense have won a SB. That's seven Super Bowl appearances with five rings and countless playoff wins. Mike McCarthy, GB — Served as an assistant to Schottenheimer for six years before joining Jim Haslett's staff in New Orleans as a coordinator. But he is without a doubt the most influential current NFL assistant never to be a head coach in the NFL. Found insideCompiled and edited by longtime SI colleague Peter King, these are the stories he still wants to see told. I think the confusion boils down to the term "stretch the field". Davis won AFL Coach of the Year in 1963, was one of the driving forces behind the AFL-NFL merger that created the modern league, and has owned and run the Raiders for more than 30 years. Mike Nolan, SF — I hate to keep assigning coaches to their father's trees, but I don't see any way around planting a Dick Nolan Coaching Tree, so Mike can be on it. Found inside – Page 183At the height of his success in San Francisco, Walsh admitted, “Much of what I did I got from Sid Gillman 20 years ago.”29 Sid Gillman coached his first game in 1955 and several coaches from his tree are still coaching today. All three combined for six Super Bowl appearances and ironically Super Bowl XX pitted Berry and Ditka against each other. This is a subreddit for the NFL community. Considering he was cheating since '01 and that the NFL destroyed a ****load of tapes, I don't see why people are not making a bigger deal of this. Assistant coaches who became … Found insideBased on interviews with owners, coaches, players, scouts, broadcasters and writers from the era, this is a colorful account of the AFL and its place in sports history. The list goes on (modern pass-blocking techniques and the quarterback "pocket") and on (year-round coaching staffs and positional coaches) and on. Karma's a mother****er. Sid Gillman file. Gillman's offensive influence in today's league would be second only to Bill Walsh's. Vytal 18:34, . In my original article three years ago, I named Schottenheimer's Coaching Tree the largest and most impressive in the NFL. The WCO was first used by the Cincinnati Bengals from 1970-1975, with Paul Brown as HC, and Walsh as OC. Plus, a coach can have worked under multiple coaches. 122-99-7 W-L, 1-5 W-L in playoffs, 0 SB won, Chargers/Rams/Oilers/.. 1955-1977, born MN 1911, died 2003 Sid Gillman. The head coach of the San Francisco 49ers outlines the successful strategies he used to transform the team from an organization in disarray to a team renowned for its excellence More famously, Turner was Jimmy Johnson's offensive coordinator in Dallas from 1991-93. You're not taking a niner's-centric enough look. Allen's primary influence was undoubtedly George Halas, the legendary coach and owner of the Bears, for whom he worked from 1958-65, including several years as Chicago's defensive coordinator. From the beginning of what we can define as modern football (circa 1940s-1950's), two men by the name of Paul Brown and Sid Gillman have created the basis of all pro set offenses that are run today. Gillman's insistence on stretching the football field by throwing deep downfield passes, instead of short passes to running backs or wide receivers at the sides of the line of scrimmage, was instrumental in making football into the modern game that it is today. Fired or Retired — Former Cardinals HC Dave McGinnis was a defensive assistant for the Bears in the 1980s and '90s, and is now Fisher's assistant head coach in Tennessee. 1 of 28. Last season, Dungy's Tree was as hot as can be. Directly after Marty comes Super Bowl champions Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy, each who have won one ring and continued Schottenheimer's thread. Found insideNow Brown wascoaching the Bengals. Healso owned the team. His coaching tree already featured Shula, Sid Gillman, Weeb Ewbank, Blanton Collier, Otto Graham,Lou Saban, Ara Parseghian, BillWalsh, and others, including Noll, who hadspentsix ... The Paul Brown tree stands out as a mighty oak, very much alive today. Make it 27. Walsh's coaching tree included Mike Holmgren, George Siefert, Mike Shanahan and Jon Gruden. Gillman was also one of the first coaches to use the West Coast offense used by all NFL teams. Chuck Noll, Don Shula, Bill Walsh and Bud Grant all were assistants to him. Little Mora also has connections to Steve Mariucci (Holmgren Tree), Al Saunders, and Don Coryell. McDaniels, who coordinated last year's record-setting offense in New England, is a very hot head coaching prospect. As such, he is in the Sid Gillman coaching tree. A collection of anecdotes, strategies, tips, criticisms, and insights into the game of football and its various positions. It's one area that can really measure a coach's legacy and his impact on pro football. And Lovie. Jim Zorn, WAS — Washington's new head coach spent the last seven seasons as Holmgren's quarterbacks coach. Kiffin's own tree includes connections to Edwards, Marinelli, Smith, Tomlin, Lane Kiffin, and USC head coach Pete Carroll. Allen was most remembered as the Washington Redskins head coach but other than he and Ditka, Halas didn't have much else after him. Sidney "Sid" Gillman (October 26, 1911 - January 3, 2003) was an American football player, coach, executive, and innovator. Gillman's imprint revolutionized the game during the 1960s and his concepts are still widely used today. Andy Reid didn't even hire Harbaugh, he was hired out of college by Ray Rhodes and Reid opted to keep him, along with some other assistant coaches. Search. This could use more info about the relationship/duration. Bill Arnsparger — Like Shula, he was on Collier's staff at Kentucky before moving to the NFL. As influential as Holmgren is, he is still part of the Walsh tree. Herm Edwards, KC — Spent the early 1990s in Kansas City with Schottenheimer before following Dungy to Tampa Bay. Also please keep this thread civil. You couldn't see the Gillman influence on the field? Bill Walsh — Conventional wisdom places Walsh in the legendary Paul Brown Coaching Tree, since Walsh was an assistant to Brown for eight seasons. Sid Gillman coached the Rams for five years in the late 1950s, the Chargers for their first nine seasons, and the Oilers for two years in the 1970s. A digital exhibit supplementing the Walter Havighurst Special Collections Fall 2013 Cradle of Coaches exhibit. Ohio is pretty much the origin of NFL coaching. It is not apparent that anyone else has had significant influence on his coaching philosophy. Mike Tomlin, PIT — Hired by Dungy in 2001, he spent another four years working under Gruden and Kiffin before one season as defensive coordinator in Minnesota. But Carroll himself owes his roots to the elder Kiffin (plus Bum Phillips, Jim Mora, Bruce Coslet, and George Seifert). Thing is, this coaching tree is only going to continue and the more we see the NFL change, the more it will stay the same because of Walsh's impact. He's a student of the true West Coast Offense run by Gillman and Coryell, and his most immediate influence is Norv Turner. It's lost that designation now, because I gave Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy their own trees. Ultimately, I went in another direction, and I put Phillips on the tree of the man who gave him his first NFL coaching job: Bum Phillips. Linehan is part of the Dennis Green Coaching Tree, and he's on the Mike Tice Branch. Kinda an overrated tree, there are 47 loses here. Ernie Zampese — The only person listed here who has never been an NFL head coach, Zampese is too important to ignore. A relationship mapper would be needed. As for his coaching tree pre-Bill Walsh, Gillman influenced Chuck Noll, Al Davis, Chuck Knox, Dick Vermeil, George Allen and Don Coryell. How the hell is Tomlin not under Dungy by the way? Mike Ditka's Kick-Ass Coaching Tree. Walsh, in turn, belonged to the coaching tree of American Football League great and Hall of Fame coach Sid Gillman of the AFL's Los Angeles/San Diego Chargers. Sid Gillman Coaching Tree. Notably, Saban is also part of the Belichick Branch; he spent four years on Belichick's staff in Cleveland. Talk:Sid Gillman Jump to . Bill Walsh coaching tree. Coach Sid Gillman can be credited as the "father of modern football". If you follow Sid Gillman's coaching tree out to all its generations, all the way to Andy Reid, for example, its descendants have won more than half of the Super Bowls . He later remembered Gillman as "one of the game's prime researchers and offensive specialists. Although his father was a football coach, Belichick's primary influence is Parcells, for whom he spent over a decade as defensive coordinator. A decade later, Ewbank would be coaching against the Colts in Super Bowl III for the New York Jets. Yeah, on the front office side, I'm sure Ron Wolf is to the Al Davis tree what (on the coaching side) Bill Walsh is to the Sid Gillman tree. You'll see that they do give Perkins the credit for Parcells. File:Walsh Coaching Tree3.png. Since the NFL began in 1920, there have been numerous head coaches with much individual success to their credit. What most forget though, is that Stram coached those 15 years and had that much success without an offensive, defensive or special teams coordinator. Jon Gruden, TB — He spent three years as Holmgren's wide receiver coach before moving to Philadelphia as offensive coordinator for another Holmgren assistant, Ray Rhodes. Norv Turner — Some fans are puzzled that Turner keeps getting good coaching jobs, and I suspect many readers will be equally puzzled at the frequency with which Turner's name has appeared in this study (12 times before we even got to this entry). In 2004, he was mentioned as a possible candidate to replace Gary Darnell as the head football coach at Western Michigan, where he had earned a master's degree and was an assistant football coach from 1984-1987. Eric Mangini, NYJ — These days, no love is lost between Mangini and Belichick, but it's clear whose tree — and in this case, whose branch — he belongs on. Sidney "Sid" Gillman (October 26, 1911 - January 3, 2003) was an American football player, coach, executive, and innovator. In 1932 and 1933 he was voted All American.In 1933 he acted as his team's deputy captain and was selected for the Western Conference.In the same year he played in the East-West Shrine Game, a selection game of the best college . Found inside – Page 178At the age of 52, Gillman had reached the peak of his head-coaching career. But Gillman had much more to offer. His thoughts and ideas led to Super Bowl titles. His coaching tree—those coaches who worked under Gillman—is one of the most ... Doyt Perry, Bowling Green. His other significant influences were Bear Bryant, Chuck Fairbanks, and Don Coryell. Al Saunders — His three-year head-coaching career was not productive, but Saunders has been one of the most influential offensive coaches of the last 30 years. Previous. His offensive coordinator, who would go on to win five NFL Championships as head coach of the Packers, was Vince Lombardi. Found insideIn sports, the term “coaching tree” has come to be associated with individuals whose philosophy, ideas, ... In the American context, individuals with extensive “coaching trees” include Sid Gillman, Tom Landry and Bill Walsh (football); ... Literature on leadership often fails to include a clear connection between theory and practice. This book details characteristics and behaviors manifested by effective leaders and how their behavior was informed by leadership theory. During his head coaching career with the Bengals, Gregg oversaw the development of fellow Hall of Famer Anthony Muñoz and led the team to an appearance in Super Bowl XVI. Gillman's insistence on stretching the football field by throwing deep downfield passes, instead of short passes to running backs or wide receivers at the sides of the line of scrimmage, was instrumental in making football into the modern game that it is today. A coaching tree does not fully explain who belongs where. Obviously the more profound descendants, the greater the influence on pro football. The dots appear to be based on just first-generation connections, but there are some guys like Sid Gillman and Don Shula that seem to be way more connected if you click all the way through. Much like Tom Landry and Marty Schottenheimer, Bill Parcell's coaching tree isn't too deep. Fired or Retired — Former Browns HC Chris Palmer was an offensive assistant for Parcells in New England and Dallas. Norv Turner, SD — The lone remaining head coach who runs the original "West Coast Offense" developed by Sid Gillman and Don Coryell, Turner is part of that esteemed coaching tree through John Robinson and Ernie Zampese. This was the most dynamic offense in football for most of the 1960s and '70s, into the early '80s, and although it seems to be dying out now — replaced by Walsh's short-passing offense — you can see the legendary names attached to it (Coryell, Davis, Gibbs, Madden) and understand why some people still have faith in this style of offense. Walsh's … Former Chargers HC Kevin Gilbride traces his roots to Tom Coughlin, and former Dolphins HC Nick Saban was once an assistant to Belichick. He now holds the same position on Edwards' staff. One is that he didn't spend much time working with anyone else, either. During his career in football, Davis has been a personnel assistant, scout, assistant coach, head coach, general manager, league commissioner, and principal owner and chief executive officer of a team. Before we begin, here are some of the greatest coaches in NFL history however, their predecessors weren't nearly as successful. Mike Shanahan, DEN — He's first and foremost a member of the Bill Walsh Coaching Tree, via three seasons with Seifert, but he also has strong ties with Dan Reeves, and some connection to both Barry Switzer, with whom he worked at Oklahoma, and Charley Pell, who coached the Florida Gators. This guy's coaching tree accounts for coaches with all 47 Super Bowl victories! Al Davis is a unique figure in the history of professional football. Re: Route tree. Found insideThe book expands on the foundation laid out in the 2000 report and takes an in-depth look at the constellation of influences that affect individual learning. What's even more impressive about these three, is that none are quite finished just yet and much more resume building will happen. Rising Star: Jason Garrett — The hotshot offensive coordinator in Dallas, if he becomes a head coach next year, will probably do so as part of the Jim Fassel Coaching Tree. In fact, all have actually had more success than Schottenheimer himself, who holds a 200-126-1 career record but is just 5-13 in the postseason with three AFC Championship game losses. By inspecting the coaching tree below, you can see that Walsh was a disciple of Sid Gillman, who I mentioned last week as being the father of the modern passing … T.L.;D.R. San Diego impact Gillman was the head coach of the San Diego Chargers from 1961-69 and again for the 1971 . Jim Saccomano. Mike Holmgren, SEA — It doesn't get much easier than this: Holmgren's roots are with Walsh. Sid Gillman. Collier probably wasn't a formative influence on any major coaching trees, but he has many important secondary connections, and his assistants included Bill Arnsparger, Howard Schnellenberger, Chuck Knox, and Don Shula. Gary Kubiak, HOU — He spent 11 seasons as an assistant to Shanahan, and one year as Seifert's quarterbacks coach. Coaching future Hall of Famers like Dan Fouts, Charlie Joiner, and Kellen Winslow, Coryell coordinated an offense that no one could seem to stop. So, add six more Super Bowls not including Dungy and then everything else after Bill Walsh. but I think it's pretty clear that they aren't connected in any philosophical sense. Joe Gibbs — He played and coached for Coryell at San Diego State, then served as Coryell's assistant with both the Cardinals and Chargers. Those teams were coached by Perkins, with Parcells, Belichick, and Crennel all on board as assistants. Shanahan does not share Pell's and Switzer's reputations for NCAA rule-breaking. Woody Hayes, Ohio State University. Sid Gillman. Found insideMartyball tells the story of a man who persevered through an avalanche of misfortune and playoff agony that would have brought most men to their knees. His own head coaching career, although it yielded a championship in 1956 and a pair of losses to the famous Colts teams of Weeb Ewbank and John Unitas, is most remarkable for the assistants he hired. Pro Football Hall of Fame Coach. In a coaching career that spanned more then 18 years he coached such teams as, Los Angeles Rams (1955-1959), Los Angeles Rams/San Diego Chargers (1960-1969, and 1971), Houston Oilers (1973-1974). Most of the league's head coaches trace their roots to one of four basic places: Ray Perkins and the 1980s Giants (Bill Parcells Tree), Chuck Noll's Steel Curtain Dynasty (Tony Dungy Tree), Marty Schottenheimer (his own tree and the Bill Cowher Tree), or Bill Walsh and the 1980s 49ers (Mike Holmgren and George Seifert Trees). Found insideIn The Ones Who Hit the Hardest, Chad Millman and Shawn Coyne trace the rise of the Steelers amidst the backdrop of the fading city they fought for, bringing to life characters such as: Art Rooney, the owner of the team so beloved by ... Phillips was an assistant to Buddy Ryan in Philadelphia. Kevin already touched on Coach Shanahan's Bill Walsh Coaching Tree roots ( pictured ). So successful has this coach been that he has his own, fairly large, branch on the Parcells Tree. I thought it was widely known that Sid taught Al Davis the "Feast or Famine" offense, of which the the vertical passing schemes taught to Bill by Al was the genesis for the West Coast Offense, as he modified it to far more horizontal scheme around weak-armed (but extremely mobile) Virgil Carter with the Bengals. Many former and current NFL head coaches trace their lineage back to Bill Walsh on his coaching tree, shown below. With the exception of a nod in Mike Shanahan's direction, Walsh's legacy effectively runs through Holmgren now. Sidney "Sid" Gillman (October 26, 1911 - January 3, 2003) was an American football player, coach, executive, and innovator. Coughlin got his start in NFL coaching from Marion Campbell in Philadelphia, later spending two years under Forrest Gregg before working for Parcells. Found inside – Page 1The Uncrowned Champs follows the incredible season of the ’63 Chargers as they transformed their roster from a 4–10 finish in 1962 to a conquering force that ripped through the AFL. Seifert's assistants included Jeff Fisher, Holmgren, Gary Kubiak, Ray Rhodes, and Mike Shanahan. Along with Walsh, the primary offensive pioneer of the 1980s. The three coaches already assigned to the Parcells Tree are impressive enough — Coughlin is the reigning Super Bowl champ and Payton was the 2006 Coach of the Year — but we've yet to reach the Tuna's most impressive pupil. 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